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Mike Peters
22nd September 2013, 01:27 PM
The Dealer bought it ..and for months now not one person can ID it.
Not one mark on it (except for a serial #)
Any ideas ?
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22nd September 2013, 03:45 PM
Realllllllly a neat and rare rifle. Could not find it in Lugs. The only comment I can make is the follower looks mechanically similar to early 1890's Mauser followers, on some of their rifles, Is the side lever for diss assembly, decocking, or what ??

My suggestion is to put it on gunboards, as some European collector will recognize it.

22nd September 2013, 05:02 PM
I think it might be Swiss with what looks like a straight pull back bolt and rear sight. But, thats a guess.

22nd September 2013, 05:50 PM
Never saw anything like it. Looks like the fore stock has been shortened? A very early Bubba job?

28th December 2013, 12:07 PM
could it be a modified or Early Dutch Cavalry carbine?

13th December 2015, 05:34 PM
Any update on this really unique looking rifle?

14th December 2015, 02:10 AM
I'll join the party and make a WAG - frog Label of approx. WW 1 vintage.
Don't know why the markings have been scrubbed unless it was sent to the Spanish loyalists during the Spanish civil war?

15th December 2015, 01:04 AM
I spent the better part of an hour looking at straight pull rifles from the 1890's up trying to see if it was a prototype design that someone gave up on, the cleaning rod/stacking rod made me think French too, but I didn't have a clue when I gave up.

insomnia has made me add some more on this thread.

My WAG is a prototype Mannlicher from around the mid-1880's. The rear sight looks a lot like that on the 1886 Rifle - http://www.euroarms.net/exordtextit/schedeultimiarrivi/Mann1886.htm

If you could produce a better picture of the bolt and look at the various Mannlichers being developed in 1884-5-6, you probably can see if it fits in their development.

Tacdriver may have hit the mark, the only Mannlicher I found with that wood covering the magazine was on a Dutch Carbine - http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123649