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    Glad to see it back up, honestly described, hopefully the seller can recoup some of his investment in this rifle...

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    Yes, it's a good representative / restored piece now, with NO chance of being boosted on the unsuspecting as 100% original // the metal is after all legit, and that should count for something.
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    IMHO, it is at where it should be now as far as bids go. The guy who wins this has no grounds for a complaint.
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    I would defer to you on its value but people can be funny sometimes. My guess is there will be someone who can't resist just putting just one more "little" bid. There are thirteen more days for potential buyers to think and think and think. Sometimes overthinking something can get you in trouble.

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    I think the seller did all the right things, advertised it honestly, lots and lots of pictures, and gave the auction a lengthy time frame, - I suspect he will do well on the rifle, probably more than its worth, but as Dave says, there will be no cause for complaint as it will be an honest trade and everyone has their own views to value.

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    Overthinking a subject is less dangerous than being uninformed or not giving a subject adequate thought... every other November is proof of both, but i do agree that the lengthy auction can only work to the sellers advantage, people can get obsessive with something given enough time to ponder the subject. Some might think that the seller is mistaken on authenticity, even with the previous auction pictures, or get caught up on the rarity of BSW/39's, which the seller mentions (and is true), - people can often convince themselves of anything if given enough time.

    What is important is that it will be an informed auction result, which is a lot more than most auctions offer...
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    I am in total agreement that the seller is being up front and honest. My point is that with thirteen more days before the auction ends there is in all likelyhood going to be more bids. Just think if there was alcohol involved like at casinos and certian auctions.😜. The price could go sky high then. That is one reason I enjoy visiting this forum, many interesting auctions come up and this could be one of them.

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    As long as the bidding is honest with no deceptive "shill bidding", then let nature take it's course. The new owner will have no reason to bitch. Now watch it sky rocket, because people have more money than brains. Caveat Emptor.

    Caveat Emptor

    Latin for "let the buyer beware." A doctrine that places on buyers the burden to reasonably examine property before purchase, and take responsibility for its condition. Especially applicable to items that are not covered under a strict warranty.



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    It would be nice if we could determine who faked the rifle. If this person was identified, it would help prevent others from getting ripped-off.

    I did get some information from Loewe with the auction number and the rifle was briefly discussed here:

    http://ww2weaponsforum.com/showthrea...light=rare+gun

    The auction number was Gunbroker 279526543

    The buyer and seller did not leave feedback so it is not possible to determine either one by a Web search. I saw no record of the rifle in any forums or serial number lists. If anyone has a copy of the original auction information, that would help. There are pictures of the rifle in the thread when this was sold by ironmenarms:

    http://ww2weaponsforum.com/showthrea...highlight=1939

    It would also help if Frank passed on what he remembered from the transaction. I know he can't be happy about this and would want to help others from being burned by the same seller. It is also possible that Gunbroker may be willing to assist Frank in identifying the original seller since this was a clear case of fraud. Not that the original seller was involved, but the seller may be willing to help considering what happened with the rifle after he sold it.

    Determining a chain-of-custody will likely out the faker and the hobby would be better for it.

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