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    Mar 2009

    Default Yes !!!!!!!!

    I Am All For this

    Yes, try enforcing the laws already on the books.......

    WASHINGTON - Federal authorities sought to take back guns from thousands of people the background check system should have blocked from buying weapons because they had criminal records, mental health issues or other problems that would disqualify them.

    A USA TODAY review found that the FBI issued more than 4,000 requests last year for agents from the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives to retrieve guns from prohibited buyers.

    It's the largest number of such retrieval requests in 10 years, according to bureau records – an especially striking statistic after revelations that a breakdown in the background check system allowed a troubled Air Force veteran to buy a rifle later used to kill 26 worshipers at a Texas church last month.

    The FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) vets millions of gun purchase transactions every year. But the thousands of gun seizure requests highlight persistent problems in a system where analysts must complete background checks within three days of the proposed purchase. If the background check is not complete within the 72-hour time limit, federal law allows the sale to go forward. ATF agents are asked to take back the guns if the FBI later finds these sales should have been denied.

    "These are people who shouldn't have weapons in the first place, and it just takes one to do something that could have tragic consequences," said David Chipman, a former ATF official who helped oversee the firearm retrieval program. "You don't want ATF to stand for 'after the fact.'"
    Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.

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    Ever heard of Diane Feinstein? Last I heard, in California next year, ammunition was to be held for 10 days after sale. Say it ain't so!!

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    Reading between the lines, this sounds more like a staffing issue. Pretty clear that the BATFE doesn't have enough folks tasked with processing the 4473's.
    Last edited by Pat; 4th December 2017 at 09:47 PM.

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    Mar 2009


    If a purchaser is denied, that information is sent from FBI (they do the checks, not ATF) to ATF for possible follow-up - some go some no-go and few cases are picked up by US Attorneys for prosecution.

    That's a lame summary, but if you are interested in learning what goes on, the two OIG reports mentioned in the article are attached (they are not all that labor intensive and will get you miles ahead of any gun shop lawyer in a few minutes). The 2016 version spends substantially more time on the background checks which may might be tough reading but it's there if ya want it.
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